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Escaping Google's gravity well: personal to-do list

I can't find who shared the Google alternatives page of RestorePrivacy.com with me but this is the path I intend to take forward.

I already:
  • deleted my Analytics and AdWords accounts.
  • switched to Qwant for personal search.
  • replaced Chrome with Vivaldi based on Chromium without the Google wrapper.
  • set up a personal NextCloud instance.


I still have to:
  • Move my documents to NextCloud although the web editing tools are lacking.
  • Open an email/calendar account with a different provider (ProtonMail, MailFence?).
  • Delete my Google account entirely.


I probably will open a new bare Google account to use Youtube only because there isn't any alternative for the available content.
Alternatives to Google Products – The Complete List
#Google #Privacy #NextCloud #Qwant #Vivaldi #ProtonMail #MailFence
I still have to:- Move my documents to NextCloud although the web editing tools are lacking.
You find Collabora lacking? In what way?
Open an email/calendar account with a different provider (ProtonMail, MailFence?).
Nextcloud does calendaring pretty well.
You find Collabora lacking? In what way?

I can't even install it; my two options are a Rasperry Pi (too limited in resources) and a VPS that doesn't support Docker. It's a shame, really, online documents is the one thing I still miss from Google.
You find Collabora lacking? In what way?

I can't even install it; my two options are a Rasperry Pi (too limited in resources) and a VPS that doesn't support Docker. It's a shame, really, online documents is the one thing I still miss from Google.
hosh Friendica
I'm so far very happy to have discovered disroot.org.
I'm currently wary about putting all my eggs into a single basket, whether it is Disroot or Framasoft, just because I'm currently trying to do the exact opposite. I used to trust Google when they had the "Don't be evil" motto. Maybe it's irrational but I can't get myself to go all in this way even though I would recommend them to other people.
I'm using https://mailcow.email/ for my mail-environment.
- mail
- calendar
- contacts
- notes
- ActiveSync support
- SoGo (groupware) support

and nextcloud for all the documents/sharing

Works fine for me :-)
More power to you, I'm nowhere near a sysadmin so managing my own mail server is completely out of the question.
I've got a Synology NAS at home. This system contains all that one needs and is easily to administrate.
Thanks for the suggestion, I can't trust my ISP, either for surveillance nor reliability, so no home hosting for me.
@Brian Ó 🐟
You find Collabora lacking? In what way?
It is pretty unresponsive compared to the GSuite and in practice it's making me use Etherpad instead just because it is accessible without needing authentication.

Nextcloud does calendaring pretty well.
Good to know, I have to sync up with someone on Apple products and someone on Android products so Google Calendar seemed an easy all-around choice for shared calendar and managing permissions.
Nextcloud uses CalDAV, so it works with pretty much everything.
Can't say how, but with DavDroid and NextCloud I can add events from my phone and they show up in NextCloud.
Russ O diaspora
Re YouTube: do you actually need a Google account to use it? Check out #HookTube too - all the YouTube content without using YouTube. A Firefox extension is available to replace all YouTube links and embeds with the equivalent HookTube one.

And +1 for Nextcloud calendars. It allows read-only and read-write sharing options, multiple calendars, multiple devices, and a pretty good web interface. On Android, #DAVdroid is the best option to sync your calendars (and contacts) - there's an option in the Nextcloud app settings to help you set it up too. I'm sure there'll be something similar for Apple devices.
@Russ O Hooktube was created to go around Youtube’s hate speech censorship, so I don’t want to use it. Plus I like seeing which videos I already watched when browsing a channel.
Debacle diaspora
For web search, check out #searx! And use a different instance every day.
@Debacle I used to host a searx instance but it wasn’t reliable enough and I couldn’t set it as default on iOS browsers anyway.
ios browsers don't know opensearch xml?
(or is that not still commonly supported in browers nowdays?)
@Michael_MD No, they always have a predefined list of search providers. The Brave browser I commonly use allows Qwant.
also re list of search engines

there are no doubt a lot more of them out there.

including some that existed before google started theirs
- some of those are probably still out there too.
hosh Friendica
Regarding Disroot, you naturally don't have to use it for everything, though it does have most of what you are looking for.. The main draw for me was initially a non-commercial. foss based email service. They also allow you to host your own domain, in case you are worried about later having to change your address. But for years I have also been using - with a paid family account- Fastmail, both before the Opera purchase and after it, when Fastmail bought their company back. I also have accounts at Protonmail and Vivaldi.net, but don't really use them. The last time I checked, Protonmail did not have IMAP or POP access, in case you are interested in that. Because I don't want to spend more money on storage above their standard freebie limits, I would need to download my email occasionally. That's how I've been working with Fastmail, in order to keep costs down (one $40 / yr account for my partner, one $12/ yr account for me) . Fastmail has a calendar service, a beautiful web interface, file storage and photo-albums (which are a bit lackluster by today's standards). For a few... show more
@humalaya IMAP and POST access aren't important to me, I'm only checking my email from my phone and a web browser, and ProtonMail offers both. Lack of features actually draws me, I'd prefer specialized services that only do one thing right.

Ideally I'd like to find the same ease of use than Google Inbox but I feel like it isn't going to happen.
I'm hosting my calendar and contacts at home on a Raspberry Pi3+ using a Freedombox install and a free DDNS account. Been working well for 3 months now.

I also have Syncthing installed so my photos from my phone are automatically transferring from my phone to the Pi when my phone logs on to the local home wireless.
Also, have you had a look at MailPile?

"Mailpile is an effort to reclaim private communication on the Internet. A project to rescue our personal lives from the proprietary cloud and prevent our conversations from being strip-mined for corporate profit and government surveillance. Mailpile is taking e-mail back."

https://www.mailpile.is/
Also, have you had a look at MailPile?

"Mailpile is an effort to reclaim private communication on the Internet. A project to rescue our personal lives from the proprietary cloud and prevent our conversations from being strip-mined for corporate profit and government surveillance. Mailpile is taking e-mail back."

https://www.mailpile.is/
"Re YouTube: do you actually need a Google account to use it?" - there is also FreeTube
@Tomy Tani A quick search on "freetube" shows porn videos websites! 😅
And hooktube, if you only want to watch movies.
@Roland Häder
@Russ O Hooktube was created to go around Youtube’s hate speech censorship, so I don’t want to use it. Plus I like seeing which videos I already watched when browsing a channel.
I use it for general watching. Maybe there can be a generic plugin written for Friencica/GNUSocial that rewrites youtube-URLs to any compatible hoster?
What does Gmail have that ProtonMail lacks?
https://www.ostechnix.com/freetube-an-open-source-desktop-youtube-player-for-privacy-minded-people/

And I think that remark regarding hooktube and censorship is not the real reason, but it's of course free to anyone to use that site or not.
@Tomy Tani Thanks for the link, I didn't know about it! Unfortunately, I'm using YouTube on mobile as well, so the desktop-only FreeTube doesn't cover all my current usage.

Regarding HookTube, they have had questionable links in the "Friends" section of their website's footer, but it has been changed since. And the founder has an account on gab.ai, which is always a red flag in my book.
J K Friendica
If you are on android, NewPipe is very nice as a youtube app replacement.. It works very much like FreeTube (I think from my limited play around with FreeTube this afternoon).. but it doesn't have a non-android app\web function, sadly.
Thanks for the suggestion, I'm on iOS at the moment.
And I think that remark regarding hooktube and censorship is not the real reason
I agree with @tani@diasp.org. As far as I know, hooktube has no own comment service, so how should one be able to leave hate comments on hooktube? Correct me if I'm wrong.

@Hyp☀️li🌷e Pet🌸van (he/him) You criticize disroot being an all-round-service (As I understood because of fear of data loss or being at the mercy of the host/admin). Why not being consequent and just self-host everything? I would suggest hubzilla for that. It contains everything you want except a mail service based on the email protocol. It's especially strong in terms of privacy (You can control precisely with whom you share what...)

As a search engine, there's also duckduckgo

Hubzilla project


Hubzilla is a powerful platform for creating interconnected websites featuring a
decentralized identity, communications, and permissions framework built using common webserver technology.
@Brian Ó 🐟 Google Inbox has automatic bundle grouping (Purchases, Updates, GitHub, ...), which reduces the number of notifications for unread emails and makes personal email stand out.

It also has other nice-to-have features like grouping email for a single travel trip together, extracting flight number and schedule from airline confirmation emails, showing prominent direct links to GitHub, but I wouldn't miss them as much as not getting an alert any time I'm receiving an automatic email.
^Big mistake :DDD