06- #HOW DID #ISLAM BEGIN? A POSSIBLE SCENARIO ..........Al Fadi & Jay Smith CIRA series

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We now come to the 6th and final episode on this series concerning How Islam Began, from what #history tells.

Because everything we know about Islam from Islamic sources was written 200 - 300 years after, the Western Historians are going back to the 7th century itself, to the century when it all happened.

What they are finding is not only surprising, but confronts the classical Islamic account on many fronts, especially who Muhammad was, whether was even a city called Mecca during his century, and when the Qur'an was actually written down.

In this episode Jay and Al Fadi attempt to put together a 'what if' scenario, using what we now know from the historical record. This is only an attempt in 2018 to understand what may have happened, and could easily be changed in the next year or the next depending on what new evidence comes to hand.

What they have found is that almost all of Islam's creation came out of a desire by the Arab conquerors of the 7th century to create an Arab identity, in contradistinction, or rather in opposition to that of their Abraham cousins, the Jews and the Christians, who already had a prophetic line, and revelations which were given specifically to them.

The Arabs didn't have any prophet and certainly not any Arab revelation, yet they were now the super-power of their day politically.

It was Abd al Malik who began this push for such an Arab identity, introducing the name Muhammad on the Dome of the Rock, and on coins he minted in 691 AD, and on the Caliphal Protocols.

Once they had the prophet, they then needed a revelation, and that is why all of the earliest Qur'anic manuscripts begin to appear in the early 8th century, but they aren't consistent, nor are the complete, nor do they completely match the Qur'an we have today.

With the man and the book in place, then all they needed was a place to situate him, because Petra wasn't really Arab, but Nabatean, so they finally placed him in Mecca, though the mosques didn't begin to use Mecca for their Qibla (the direction of prayer) until 727 AD, a full century after they were suppose to.

Now with a man, a book and a place, they then only needed to put that man into a historical frameword, and have many things for him to say, and that is why they weren't able to write down his story (the Sira, or his biography), and his sayings (the Hadith) until another hundred and more years later (833 AD and 870 AD).

Finally with an Arab prophet (Muhammad), who was given an Arab revelation (the Qur'an), and now placed in an Arab city (Mecca), all supported with his own biography (the Sira) and his own sayings (the Hadith), Islam could now finally be proud, not only to have their own prophet and book, but their own religion, one which was not created in just 22 years in a place called Mecca, as Muslims like to tell us, but took anywhere from 100 - 200 years to create and final canonize.

This scenario not only fits the historical record, but makes sense when looking at the political context of that time.

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Der vergessene Häftling und Blogger Raif Badawi

Vor fünf Jahren wurde er zu langer Haft und 1000 Stockschlägen verurteilt. Seine Frau kämpft weiter für die Freilassung.


Das Amateurvideo ist kaum eine halbe Minute lang. Aber es gibt seltenen Einblick in den Strafvollzug im extrem konservativen #Saudi-Arabien, den #Menschenrechtler als „archaisch“ beschreiben und der für westliche Beobachter mittelalterlich anmuten kann: Ein Offizier verpasst dem Blogger Raif #Badawi öffentlich vor einer Moschee in der Stadt Dschidda zahlreiche Hiebe. Immer wieder saust der Schlagstock auf seinen Rücken und seine Beine herab. „Gott ist groß“, sagen die Schaulustigen, als die Prügelstrafe vollzogen ist.

Fünf Jahre ist es her, dass ein Gericht das Urteil für den saudischen Wirtschaftswissenschaftler Badawi in letzter Instanz bestätigte. Mit der Entscheidung vom 7. Juni 2015 schwand weitere Hoffnung für Badawis Angehörige, den Fall irgendwie noch zu drehen. Die saudische Justiz hatte Badawi zu zehn Jahren Haft, einem Reiseverbot samt Geldstrafe von umgerechnet etwa 238.000 Euro und insgesamt 1000 Stockschlägen verurteilt. Der Vorwurf: Mit seinen Blog-Einträgen soll er den #Islam beleidigt haben, indem er die Trennung von Staat und Religion vorschlug. Er hatte sich auch für die Gleichbehandlung aller Menschen unabhängig von Religion und Weltanschauung eingesetzt.

Inzwischen ist es ruhig geworden um Badawi – obwohl er zu einem der prominentesten politischen Häftlinge in Saudi-Arabien zählt. Nach einem Hungerstreik im vergangenen September, mit dem er gegen seine schlechte Behandlung protestieren wollte, befindet er sich inzwischen wieder in seiner Zelle im Briman-Gefängnis nahe Dschidda. „Ich träume von dem Tag, an dem er endlich freigelassen wird“, schrieb seine Frau Ensaf Haidar Mitte Mai bei Twitter.

„Es gibt leider überhaupt keine Anzeichen, dass der Fall noch einmal neu verhandelt wird“, sagt Regina Spöttl, Expertin für Saudi-Arabien bei der Menschenrechtsorganisation Amnesty International. Immerhin habe das Land die Prügelstrafe im April abgeschafft, und saudische Richter könnten diese künftig nicht mehr nach eigenem Ermessen verhängen. „Dieser Tortur wird er wohl nicht mehr unterworfen werden“, sagt Spöttl. Von 1000 verhängten Stockschlägen waren Badawi zunächst 50 verabreicht worden. Die wöchentlich geplante Strafe wurde dann immer wieder verschoben, offiziell aus gesundheitlichen Gründen.

Badawis Frau wird nicht müde, für die Freilassung ihres heute 36 Jahre alten Mannes zu kämpfen. „FREE RAIF FREE RAIF FREE RAIF“, schreibt Ensaf Haidar alle paar Tage bei Twitter. Im Mai postete sie ein gemeinsames Foto mit den Worten „Ich vermisse deine Umarmungen, Raif“, dazu das Emoji eines gebrochenen Herzen. Sie hatte Badawi 2002 geheiratet und war nach seiner Inhaftierung aus Saudi-Arabien geflohen. Inzwischen lebt sie mit den drei gemeinsamen Kindern in Kanada, das der Familie 2013 Asyl gewährt hatte.

Badawi ist ein prominenter, aber längst kein Einzelfall. Mindestens 3000 politische Inhaftierte sitzen in Saudi-Arabien nach Schätzungen von Amnesty International derzeit im Gefängnis. Neben regierungskritischen Bloggern und Journalisten – darunter auch Jamal Khashoggi, der 2018 im saudischen Konsulat in Istanbul von einem Spezialkommando aus Riad brutal getötet wurde – werden auch Anwälte, Menschenrechtler und Frauenrechtlerinnen verfolgt.

„Unter Kronprinz Mohammed bin Salman kann jeder, der in Saudi-Arabien auch nur daran denkt, zu berichten oder zu schreiben, in einer Gefängniszelle landen“, resümierte Nahost-Experte Justin Shilad vom Komitee zum Schutz von Journalisten (CPJ) im November. In einer Verhaftungswelle wurden laut CPJ seinerzeit mindestens sieben Autoren festgenommen. Darunter war auch Sulaiman al-Nassir. Er hatte laut CPJ über philosophische Themen abseits der Politik geschrieben. Sein letzter Blog-Eintrag stammte aus dem Jahr 2016.

Prügelstrafen und die Todesstrafe für Minderjährige hat Saudi-Arabien abgeschafft. Folter in Gefängnissen, Amputationen von Händen oder Füßen als Strafe für Mord oder Wegelagerei sowie Hinrichtungen sind Menschenrechtlern zufolge aber weiter Routine. Allein 2019 wurden in Saudi-Arabien nach Zählung von Amnesty International 184 Menschen geköpft. „Darüber können auch so Reformen wie Rockkonzerte, die Lockerung der Kleiderordnung bei Frauen oder Besuche in Kino und Fußballstadien nicht hinwegtäuschen“, so Spöttl.

https://www.berliner-zeitung.de/politik-gesellschaft/saudi-arabien-der-vergessene-haeftling-und-blogger-raif-badawi-li.86048

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Афганский агит-плакат, 30-40 летней давности.
https://foreignpolicy.com/slideshow/the-not-so-funny-papers/
Afghan agitations posters, 30-40 years old.
https://nla.gov.au/nla.obj-361475792/findingaid






Интересно, что на всех плакатах есть штамп "Internal islamic fronts of Afghanistan", что буквально означает "Внутренние исламские фронты Афганистана". При этом, точный поиск в сети не даёт никаких конкретных результатов об этой организации, а неточный поиск указывает на организацию "National Islamic Front of Afghanistan". Создаётся впечатление, что афганцам было сказано что "Internal islamic fronts" означает "Interislamic fronts" (интер исламский/международно-исламские фронты), в духе: друзья-талибы, весь исламский мир с вами. Но при этом, на весь мир транслировались какие-то "внутренний исламские фронты" в Афганистане.
Interestingly, all posters bear the stamp "Internal islamic fronts of Afghanistan". At the same time, an accurate search on the network does not give any concrete results about this organization, and an inaccurate search indicates the organization "National Islamic Front of Afghanistan". It seems that the Afghans were told that "Internal islamic fronts" means "Interislamic fronts", in the spirit: friends-taliban, the whole Islamic world is with you. But at the same time litterally "internal Islamic fronts" of Afghanistan were broadcast all over the world.
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the radical Moslem Erdogan will bring death and destruction to the world - it is time for the world to confine the mad man at the Bosporus

Erdogan just as Putin wants to show how strong men they are.

Also Erdogan and Putin want to use the “rally behind the flag” effect to win the next election. (last election was not so great for Erdogan, as economy was weak)

said it before and i say it again: ANY PARTNERSHIP WILL TURKEY WILL BITE YOU IN THE ASS!

TURKEY IS A VERY BAD PARTNER!

TURKEY SHOULD BETTER BE KICKED OUT OF NATO AND ANY ALLIANCE!

IF YOU HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH TURKEY: YOU ARE A GOD DAMN MORON AND WILL BE FOOLED!

In middle ages Christianity there were only two groups killing each other over power money and land: Protestants and Catholics.

Luckily this is a pretty long time ago, but it is still up to date in Islam – it seams – the culture of Islam is stuck in the past.

In Islam it is even more complicated than in Christianity, many more groups fighting each other – officially over who is the legit successor to prophet Mohamed (“by prophet is bigger than your’s”)

In-officially – it is – of course always about power, land, money, resources, women and so on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shia_Islam#/media/File:Madhhab_Map3.png

• Sunnits (radical strict islam)
  • for example: Saudi Arabia
• Shia (radical strict islam)
  • for example: Iran
• Alawites (moderate islam)
  • for example: Assad, Syria, Kurds (no country)

long story short – Erdogan is also Hanefi (Sunni strict islam). (https://www.quora.com/Is-Erdogan-Wahabi-or-Sunni?share=1)

Radial islamist who want to live in the middle ages – please go to Afghanistan – there your dream is already reality. (do not complain about how fucked up this country is… it is what you chose!)

The West can not grant people that want to live in the middle ages human rights – because human rights did not exist – in the middle ages.

Please come develop and learn mankind – if you can – if you can not – mankind is already lost.

Back to the situation:

Assad probably promised the Kurds their own state – when they help him fight (this was the first mistake and it is not even sure he will keep his promise, if at all, it could be possible to give them land in the very East, far far away from Turkey, but not near Turkey).

Erdogan wants to prevent this.

The Turks hate the Kurds so much – nobody knows why but it is going on for a long long time – you could say – they hate each other out of tradition.

Is Erdogan really willing to go to full scale war with Syria backed by Iran and Russia for this?

Hopefully not.

So Erdogan tries to draw the Western powers into the conflict – which is very very dangerous as this could lead to direct confrontation between NATO and Russia (yes Mr Friedman and Israel would love that ).

What does the mighty Turkey have to fear from a bunch of Kurds?

Or is it about religion? (if yes mankind is really still in the very dark middle ages)

Erdogan is pro radical islam favors ISIS over moderate Kurds that fight for equal women rights – so it would be time for Turkey to evolve and come back from the dark middle ages or be internationally isolated in any possible way and denied cooperation.

Please Erdogan and all other radical islamists:

GO TO AFGHANISTAN! IT IS YOUR DREAM COUNTRY!

US, EU, NATO and BRICs – de facto the whole world – should be very strict with strict islam (in this case Erdogan).





Erdogan out of greed for power is playing a very dangerous and aggressive game, that could spark a world war like conflict, so the West needs to act now:

• halt all trade with Turkey, especially weapons trades
• place immediately and hefty economic embargo (Turkey is very trade dependent)
• freeze all foreign assets
• no easy Visums for people with Turkish passport
• EU: freeze the 6 billion € promised to Turkey to manage the refugee crisis (US and EU should team up to handle the influx of refugees in a sustainable and positive for US and EU way, after all it is the US middle east war games that caused the mess).
  • grant them asylum for 3 year (if refugee is cooperative, will have to be renewed every 3 years) and human rights (not existing in their home country so this is already an improvement)
  • be strict on radical islamists: any refugee who shows sign of radical islamism or crime shall be deported to Syria (and maybe even handed over to Assad) immediately.
  • refugees should work for the native people – so the native people can see the benefits of having refugees.
  • refugees should be able to get their own land to grow food on it

“This new policy of Turkey understands only those who understand Turkish domestic policy.

On the one hand, it is religiously motivated.

Erdogan, the pious Muslim brother who granted asylum to many brothers who became too uncomfortable in Egypt after the fall of the Morsi regime, strives for a political Islam as a role Model for Turkey and for a stronger role within the Arab-influenced States.

This is not new, many have just not seen it.

But there were various domestic political moves that showed a departure from secularism.

Those who strive for Islamic profiling also see the conflict hot spots of Syria and Libya as an opportunity to make their mark.

This goes hand in hand with a fantasy of great power, as Erdogan and many AKP representatives have.

Turkey is a player and not a petitioner in the sense of an EU accession candidate.”

https://www.cicero.de/aussenpolitik/erdogan-tuerkei-idlib-fluechtlinge-abkommen-eu-syrien

Erdogan would not be the first power hungry man to throw the world in conflict of senseless killing.

The Turkish people can stop the disaster by voting against him.

“The head of Turkey’s leading KONDA polling company said that it is likely Turkey’s ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) will lose İstanbul and Ankara in the local elections in 2019 and Turkey will be heading for the polls again in 2020 for general elections, independent news site Diken reported.”

https://ahvalnews.com/elections/turkey-headed-general-elections-2020-says-pollster

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Originally posted at: https://altcoopsys.org/2020/03/02/the-radical-moslem-erdogan-will-bring-death-and-destruction-to-the-world-it-is-time-for-the-world-to-confine-the-mad-man-at-the-bosporus/

#Rechtspopulisten in #München Pegida sagt #Demo gegen #Beschneidung nahe #Synagoge ab

Rechtspopulisten von Pegida wollten in der Nähe der Münchner Ohel-Jakob-Synagoge gegen das im Judentum wichtige Ritual protestieren. Dazu kommt es nun nicht.

Die rechtspopulistische Pegida-Bewegung hat die für Freitag geplante Demonstration in der Nähe einer Synagoge in München gegen die Beschneidung von Kindern und Säuglingen abgesagt. Das teilte Johannes Meyer, Sprecher des Kreisverwaltungsreferats München, der Deutschen Presse-Agentur auf Anfrage mit. Pegida München war für eine Stellungnahme zunächst nicht erreichbar.

Die Demonstration sollte ursprünglich auf dem Platz vor der Ohel-Jakob-Synagoge stattfinden. Dies wurde von der Stadt unter anderem mit der Sorge um die öffentliche Sicherheit und Ordnung verboten. Deshalb wurde der von der rechtspopulistischen Pegida-Bewegung geplante Veranstaltungsort von den Behörden rund 200 Meter weiter an eine Straßenecke verlegt.

Die zum Thema „Beschneidung von Säuglingen und Kindern verbieten“ angemeldete Demonstration hatte scharfe Kritik hervorgerufen. Im Judentum - wie auch im Islam - ist die Beschneidung von Jungen ein wichtiges Ritual. Nach jüdischer Tradition werden Jungen am 8. Lebenstag beschnitten als Symbol des Bundes, den Gott mit Abraham schloss (Genesis 17,10-27).
„Es kann nicht sein, dass ein so offener Hass und solche volksverhetzenden, die Religionsfreiheit missachtenden Inhalte im Herzen unserer Stadt öffentlich verbreitet werden dürfen“, hatte Charlotte Knobloch, Präsidentin der Israelitischen Kultusgemeinde München und Oberbayern, Mitte der Woche gesagt und sich für ein Verbot der Demo ausgesprochen. (dpa)
https://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/rechtspopulisten-in-muenchen-pegida-sagt-demo-gegen-beschneidung-nahe-synagoge-ab/25469272.html
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